No. No. No.

The vast majority of private elementary schools in this country are religious ones, where religion is an integral part of the program.

The only way I would ever entertain a discussion about school vouchers is if the schools that accepted them removed the religion from their curriculum.

Foooey on the religious curriculum. And that is coming from a person who went to a catholic grade school for eight years that was, just before my first year, taught by nuns - with habits. Now I'm an atheist.

Parents can decide if they want to have their child receive a better education that comes with the indoctrination. If they are involved parents, and by default they are due to the fact that they are actively participating in their child's education, then they can fend that crap off at home.

Here's a little ditty about the sorry state of Chi-town public schools:
My boss lives in an area that has just opened up a magnet school. They was a lottery for spots in the enrollment. The catch was that you had to reside in the the proximity of the school, makes sense, right? Well, there were people that were taking out leases in apt's to prove residency and enter the proximity lottery.

Now, Chi-town schools spend on average $10k per capita annually. The average catholic schools in the same area charge about $7500. That means I can own a $350,000 home, which pays about $2000 in real estate taxes that are contributed to edu fees and still beat the costs of the public version.

Most people cannot afford that, right? That's why the public money should be distributed by the parents to the schools that work. Schools that have a roster of delinquents can then tailor their programs to better serve that community. Meanwhile, parents and kids that care can choose something else.

I shouldn't have to re-program my kid after school. Religion needs to stay out of the public schools. Period.

The argument about not getting any bang for your tax buck is pretty lame. What about the people without any kids in school? Should they then be exempt? If there are two taxpayers in the house, then do you get two vouchers?

I find it interesting that no one wants to apply this reasoning to other government expenditures:

1. *If I don't like my trash service, then I should be able to get a voucher so that I can hire a proper garbageman who'll do a good job, and not skip the dumpster in my alley sometimes.
2. *I should be able to get a voucher to hire my own contarctor to fix the street, since the city street department isn't doing a good job.
3. *My neighborhood police department isn't able to hire quality officers, so my neighbors and I should get a voucher to hire our own cop to watch over us.

All of those are patently ridiculous. As are school vouchers.

Proponents of school vouchers are just trying to get the state to kick in to help them pay for their religious school.

And no one is calling it what it really is: A welfare payment

(Oh, and the Chicago schools ain't got nuthin' on the sorry state of the St Louis public schools.

Sorry about the huge typeabove. Not sure how it happened. . .

Re: 1-3 above. I suppose if you consider education maintenance then I can see how those ridiculous comparisons make sense. (I know, cheap shot.)

Last time I checked, vouchers were voluntary.

And, bang-for-buck and public programs are mutually exclusive. I'm trying to figure out when the IL residents are going to figure out that their state if $5b+ in the hole. Their current programs are killing the budget and they are under performing. Currently, Gov. Quinn is considering doubling the state income tax.

I would be fine with that if it covered the unfunded pensions and went to an edu system that was acceptable. There is red-tape as far as anybody can see and nobody here is talking about making any significant changes.

Anyway. I like the big type. I think that might be a parsing thing with MT and the * you put in front of the list items. I think that might be a syntax for an unordered html list.

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